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	<title>Comments on: Ashby Highrise: Shifting Driveways and the Insanity&#160;Offense</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Proud Nimby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proud Nimby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tasha, " lighting the downtown skyscrapers at night and beautifying the city!!"?? Whoa, did our green thinking fall with the price of a gallon of gas?  Give me twinkling stars overhead for real beauty, instead of wasteful lighted buildings and give a Middle East soldier the chance to see their family again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tasha, &#8221; lighting the downtown skyscrapers at night and beautifying the city!!&#8221;?? Whoa, did our green thinking fall with the price of a gallon of gas?  Give me twinkling stars overhead for real beauty, instead of wasteful lighted buildings and give a Middle East soldier the chance to see their family again.</p>
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		<title>By: jcorr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcorr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they should hire weingarten,  they get away with everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they should hire weingarten,  they get away with everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Manx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So will the fine dining establishment be on Ashby to avoid the 300-ft TABC rule with the Hillel Center on the corner?  Although it would be funny to see the wealthy residents riding down to a BYOB restaurant clutching their brown paper bags.  I got a good chuckle out of the Pedestrian Plaza rendering - guess the artist has never actually been on Bissonnet, given the amount of space between the bus and the passing car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So will the fine dining establishment be on Ashby to avoid the 300-ft TABC rule with the Hillel Center on the corner?  Although it would be funny to see the wealthy residents riding down to a BYOB restaurant clutching their brown paper bags.  I got a good chuckle out of the Pedestrian Plaza rendering - guess the artist has never actually been on Bissonnet, given the amount of space between the bus and the passing car.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/ashby-highrise-shifting-driveways-and-the-insanity-offense/2009-02-27/#comment-21263</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However if developers site large projects based on minimizing the number of wealthy attorneys that live within a certain radius of the site then what you have essentially done is implement zoning based upon wealth. If we want to have zoning then we should apply the same rules to every neighborhood, not just tell developers that they should only build large buildings in neighborhoods where people can't afford to organize resistance to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However if developers site large projects based on minimizing the number of wealthy attorneys that live within a certain radius of the site then what you have essentially done is implement zoning based upon wealth. If we want to have zoning then we should apply the same rules to every neighborhood, not just tell developers that they should only build large buildings in neighborhoods where people can&#8217;t afford to organize resistance to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tasha</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/ashby-highrise-shifting-driveways-and-the-insanity-offense/2009-02-27/#comment-21260</link>
		<dc:creator>Tasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, sacoo!

Our city needs to buck up and take notes!

Clean up the trash, find a home for the homeless and hire world-renowned architects to build new projects.

As much as I don't want to say it, Dallas has done a phenomenal job in beautifying its city: landscaping in people-filled areas (Turtle Creek, Uptown), creating a large, beautiful area that's walkable.

They also have a sparkling downtown skyline, lit up at night in beautiful colors. It looks creative and gives the city a great energy. 

Houston could do more to take aesthetics into consideration when building new structures - more modern, world-class design. The new skyscrapers in downtown Houston will look fantastic - Hines and Hess Tower; however, has nobody noticed or commented on how BORING and drab Finger's One Park Place turned out? Geez, it's so dull and traditional. Even if they were going to go traditional, they could have added some unique features. It's very plain.

Major metro downtowns also provide great flat surfaces for murals, artwork and creative, artsy vinyl billboards (approved by the city) on the sides of buildings, something Houston takes pride in NOT allowing to preserve the "historic" look. Well, guess what - it results in a very dull look that makes visitors think Houston is boring. They can't place it, but they think our downtown looks boring. 

It's getting better, indeed, but needs more of the forward-thinking creative people to push it. 

Let's get going!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, sacoo!</p>
<p>Our city needs to buck up and take notes!</p>
<p>Clean up the trash, find a home for the homeless and hire world-renowned architects to build new projects.</p>
<p>As much as I don&#8217;t want to say it, Dallas has done a phenomenal job in beautifying its city: landscaping in people-filled areas (Turtle Creek, Uptown), creating a large, beautiful area that&#8217;s walkable.</p>
<p>They also have a sparkling downtown skyline, lit up at night in beautiful colors. It looks creative and gives the city a great energy. </p>
<p>Houston could do more to take aesthetics into consideration when building new structures - more modern, world-class design. The new skyscrapers in downtown Houston will look fantastic - Hines and Hess Tower; however, has nobody noticed or commented on how BORING and drab Finger&#8217;s One Park Place turned out? Geez, it&#8217;s so dull and traditional. Even if they were going to go traditional, they could have added some unique features. It&#8217;s very plain.</p>
<p>Major metro downtowns also provide great flat surfaces for murals, artwork and creative, artsy vinyl billboards (approved by the city) on the sides of buildings, something Houston takes pride in NOT allowing to preserve the &#8220;historic&#8221; look. Well, guess what - it results in a very dull look that makes visitors think Houston is boring. They can&#8217;t place it, but they think our downtown looks boring. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s getting better, indeed, but needs more of the forward-thinking creative people to push it. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get going!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Matt had a valid point up until he envoked the ad hominem attack by linking this unrelated effort to Enron."

I don't think it's unrelated at all - there is the same attitude of "the law doesn't apply to us" in this as there was in Enron and quite a few of the Enron executives were responsible for the "rennaisance" of Southampton including, no doubt, some of the "unindicted co-conspirators" and add the two "co-chairs" of the Stop Ashby movement who are also partners of the law firm that responded to the "concerns" of Sherron Watkins by advising Ken Lay how to deal with whistleblowers and, well, the thing sort of speak for itself. 

They believe the law, and the City Charter, doesn't apply to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Matt had a valid point up until he envoked the ad hominem attack by linking this unrelated effort to Enron.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s unrelated at all - there is the same attitude of &#8220;the law doesn&#8217;t apply to us&#8221; in this as there was in Enron and quite a few of the Enron executives were responsible for the &#8220;rennaisance&#8221; of Southampton including, no doubt, some of the &#8220;unindicted co-conspirators&#8221; and add the two &#8220;co-chairs&#8221; of the Stop Ashby movement who are also partners of the law firm that responded to the &#8220;concerns&#8221; of Sherron Watkins by advising Ken Lay how to deal with whistleblowers and, well, the thing sort of speak for itself. </p>
<p>They believe the law, and the City Charter, doesn&#8217;t apply to them.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people that are behind the Ashby Hi-Rise have every right to build that project on the property they purchased legally.  If I lived right next to where something that large was going up, I most likely wouldn't be too keen on it, but I'd understand that it is one of the issues that one faces living next to unrestricted land.  This is unfortunately another example of misinformed people hell bent on trying to get a governmental entity to enact (currently non-existent)land use restrictions to prevent someone else from excercising their own legal land use rights.... and it's not right, or legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people that are behind the Ashby Hi-Rise have every right to build that project on the property they purchased legally.  If I lived right next to where something that large was going up, I most likely wouldn&#8217;t be too keen on it, but I&#8217;d understand that it is one of the issues that one faces living next to unrestricted land.  This is unfortunately another example of misinformed people hell bent on trying to get a governmental entity to enact (currently non-existent)land use restrictions to prevent someone else from excercising their own legal land use rights&#8230;. and it&#8217;s not right, or legal.</p>
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		<title>By: DMc</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt had a valid point up until he envoked the ad hominem attack by linking this unrelated effort to Enron. The root source is Houston's wide-open development laws. One cannot buy a home with the expectation that their single-family neighborhood will remain so. That's as unfair to existing landowners as stopping development is to a new landowner.  

The neighborhood association should be aruging for a change to the laws rather than doing this backdoor. Unfortuantly, laws cannot be changed retroactivly so they are using the only tool available in the toolbox.

I can't buy the argument that this is stopping "progress". This building could have been sited in many, many other places without a fight from a surrounding neighborhood or any regulatory headaches. The developer made a poor site selection and is facing the consequences. Aren't developers supposed to be skilled in making decisions like this? If they never considered (risked) kickback from the neighborhood they are extremely short-sighted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt had a valid point up until he envoked the ad hominem attack by linking this unrelated effort to Enron. The root source is Houston&#8217;s wide-open development laws. One cannot buy a home with the expectation that their single-family neighborhood will remain so. That&#8217;s as unfair to existing landowners as stopping development is to a new landowner.  </p>
<p>The neighborhood association should be aruging for a change to the laws rather than doing this backdoor. Unfortuantly, laws cannot be changed retroactivly so they are using the only tool available in the toolbox.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t buy the argument that this is stopping &#8220;progress&#8221;. This building could have been sited in many, many other places without a fight from a surrounding neighborhood or any regulatory headaches. The developer made a poor site selection and is facing the consequences. Aren&#8217;t developers supposed to be skilled in making decisions like this? If they never considered (risked) kickback from the neighborhood they are extremely short-sighted.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I prefer to be called an AIMBYs. As in already in my backyard. What confuses me is why we haven't had this mobilization of expensive legal minds when similar developments have been proposed and built in other parts of the city. If they were to move this development tomorrow and put it up in a less affluent but equally residential neighborhood there would be a bunch of people in Southampton trying to decide whether it would make a good investment or not rather than complaining about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I prefer to be called an AIMBYs. As in already in my backyard. What confuses me is why we haven&#8217;t had this mobilization of expensive legal minds when similar developments have been proposed and built in other parts of the city. If they were to move this development tomorrow and put it up in a less affluent but equally residential neighborhood there would be a bunch of people in Southampton trying to decide whether it would make a good investment or not rather than complaining about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that you believe that no one who supports this project is willing to live in it. I would love to see Ashby Highrise built.  Not only do I live in the neighborhood, my husband and I have already discussed selling our current house and buying something in Ashby Highrise.  This would allow us to continue to live in a neighborhood we love as well as downsize from our current house which is too big for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that you believe that no one who supports this project is willing to live in it. I would love to see Ashby Highrise built.  Not only do I live in the neighborhood, my husband and I have already discussed selling our current house and buying something in Ashby Highrise.  This would allow us to continue to live in a neighborhood we love as well as downsize from our current house which is too big for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What everyone overlooks, including our mayor and city council, is the City Charter which very clearly says the city cannot regulate land use, nor can the city allow regulation of land use, of unrestricted land and the property at 1717 Bissonnet is unrestricted land. 

But then we have homeowners involved who through their connection to Enron, both directly and indirectly, have made it perfectly clear that they believe that the law does not apply to them. 

Hopefully a judge at some point will inform them that in fact it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What everyone overlooks, including our mayor and city council, is the City Charter which very clearly says the city cannot regulate land use, nor can the city allow regulation of land use, of unrestricted land and the property at 1717 Bissonnet is unrestricted land. </p>
<p>But then we have homeowners involved who through their connection to Enron, both directly and indirectly, have made it perfectly clear that they believe that the law does not apply to them. </p>
<p>Hopefully a judge at some point will inform them that in fact it does.</p>
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		<title>By: sakoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>sakoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tasha that was one of the BEST comments I've heard! I'm sick and tired of the good ole boys trying to impede progress...I guess its a good thing now that Houston actually has more forward thinking people than it used to...to all the people who don't want Houston to be a world Class City I think I speak for most Houstonians when I say " Go to the freakin country if you don't want to live in the big city you bunch of Tools"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tasha that was one of the BEST comments I&#8217;ve heard! I&#8217;m sick and tired of the good ole boys trying to impede progress&#8230;I guess its a good thing now that Houston actually has more forward thinking people than it used to&#8230;to all the people who don&#8217;t want Houston to be a world Class City I think I speak for most Houstonians when I say &#8221; Go to the freakin country if you don&#8217;t want to live in the big city you bunch of Tools&#8221;</p>
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