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	<title>Comments on: Coming Soon: Late Night Rice Military&#160;Action</title>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/coming-soon-late-night-rice-military-action/2008-11-26/#comment-33651</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm new to the area, and am trying to learn about different neighborhoods.  I thought RM was a good place, but these posts are making me rethink.  I want an area close to restaurants and neighborhood bars,  maybe a few shops, but not late night strobe light clubs with velvet ropes and VIP sections.  Are there any areas in Houston inner-loop that are cool like this, or are they all either club areas or suburban areas where everyone lives in a house with a yard?  Why aren't there any cool areas for the 30-something crowd that doesn't want clubs and drunk drivers, but does want shops, bars and restaurants?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new to the area, and am trying to learn about different neighborhoods.  I thought RM was a good place, but these posts are making me rethink.  I want an area close to restaurants and neighborhood bars,  maybe a few shops, but not late night strobe light clubs with velvet ropes and VIP sections.  Are there any areas in Houston inner-loop that are cool like this, or are they all either club areas or suburban areas where everyone lives in a house with a yard?  Why aren&#8217;t there any cool areas for the 30-something crowd that doesn&#8217;t want clubs and drunk drivers, but does want shops, bars and restaurants?</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/coming-soon-late-night-rice-military-action/2008-11-26/#comment-14357</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob:

That location used to be Little Hip's Diner, which closed and recently became Broken Spoke Cafe.  We were going to Little Hip's for a while back when it opened in 2006 and then it got a good review in the Chronicle. The owner probably wasn't prepared for the onslaught of people that read the review and really didn't care for most of them either.  In any case, he had plenty of business - the price points were good - so lumping this into hip bars and restaurants that you think won't last is probably a bad assumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob:</p>
<p>That location used to be Little Hip&#8217;s Diner, which closed and recently became Broken Spoke Cafe.  We were going to Little Hip&#8217;s for a while back when it opened in 2006 and then it got a good review in the Chronicle. The owner probably wasn&#8217;t prepared for the onslaught of people that read the review and really didn&#8217;t care for most of them either.  In any case, he had plenty of business - the price points were good - so lumping this into hip bars and restaurants that you think won&#8217;t last is probably a bad assumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/coming-soon-late-night-rice-military-action/2008-11-26/#comment-14353</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idea could be to con people into the $800k townhomes then start the club and make cash flow there. Anyways looks like thing are not doing that great more down on Wash ave already: 

http://houston.craigslist.org/bfs/954260189.html

These areas dont last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idea could be to con people into the $800k townhomes then start the club and make cash flow there. Anyways looks like thing are not doing that great more down on Wash ave already: </p>
<p><a href="http://houston.craigslist.org/bfs/954260189.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://houston.craigslist.org/bfs/954260189.html');" rel="nofollow">http://houston.craigslist.org/bfs/954260189.html</a></p>
<p>These areas dont last.</p>
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		<title>By: ezlikesunday</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/coming-soon-late-night-rice-military-action/2008-11-26/#comment-13806</link>
		<dc:creator>ezlikesunday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be a lounge, not trashy at all.   This bar is being built and leased by the same group, IKON development, that is building the $800,000 townhomes next door.  Probably even backed by the same, sports-star filled investment group.  

    The idea started off badly when they decided to build $800k townhomes in Rice Military in the first place.    

The fact of the matter is however, if they want to sell their townhomes - they will have to keep the elements at their lounge pretty tame.   I would NOT expect anything like a Coco Loco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be a lounge, not trashy at all.   This bar is being built and leased by the same group, IKON development, that is building the $800,000 townhomes next door.  Probably even backed by the same, sports-star filled investment group.  </p>
<p>    The idea started off badly when they decided to build $800k townhomes in Rice Military in the first place.    </p>
<p>The fact of the matter is however, if they want to sell their townhomes - they will have to keep the elements at their lounge pretty tame.   I would NOT expect anything like a Coco Loco.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/coming-soon-late-night-rice-military-action/2008-11-26/#comment-13675</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No matter what the opinions are (some seem to be a little envious with some 'I knew It!' sprinkled in), I love the Washington area.  

I found a little gem of place called Pagoda by Cadillac Bar the other day and was pleasantly surprised to find it as a trendy Vietnamese Bistro/Bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No matter what the opinions are (some seem to be a little envious with some &#8216;I knew It!&#8217; sprinkled in), I love the Washington area.  </p>
<p>I found a little gem of place called Pagoda by Cadillac Bar the other day and was pleasantly surprised to find it as a trendy Vietnamese Bistro/Bar.</p>
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		<title>By: Buildergeek</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/coming-soon-late-night-rice-military-action/2008-11-26/#comment-13651</link>
		<dc:creator>Buildergeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Stephen Joseph is the owner of "Phantom Wireless" at 3838 Hillcroft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Stephen Joseph is the owner of &#8220;Phantom Wireless&#8221; at 3838 Hillcroft.</p>
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		<title>By: Buildergeek</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/coming-soon-late-night-rice-military-action/2008-11-26/#comment-13650</link>
		<dc:creator>Buildergeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compusa:

3833 Hillcroft is a block away and the other side of the street from Coco Loco, which is listed as 3700 Hillcroft.  Looks from Google Maps like this is an apartment address.

I'm no expert but I don't see anything that connects this property to Coco Loco other than extemely weak circumstantial evidence.

Coco Loco in Harris County Assumed Names database is owned by DC COMMERCIAL INC.

Reign Lounge does not have an entry.

Kong:
Do you want to weigh in with your source?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compusa:</p>
<p>3833 Hillcroft is a block away and the other side of the street from Coco Loco, which is listed as 3700 Hillcroft.  Looks from Google Maps like this is an apartment address.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no expert but I don&#8217;t see anything that connects this property to Coco Loco other than extemely weak circumstantial evidence.</p>
<p>Coco Loco in Harris County Assumed Names database is owned by DC COMMERCIAL INC.</p>
<p>Reign Lounge does not have an entry.</p>
<p>Kong:<br />
Do you want to weigh in with your source?</p>
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		<title>By: margo</title>
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		<dc:creator>margo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im sorry... but didn't Mary Janes close like 5 years ago?? Not very "hip" to the "hipster" joints!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sorry&#8230; but didn&#8217;t Mary Janes close like 5 years ago?? Not very &#8220;hip&#8221; to the &#8220;hipster&#8221; joints!!</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks somebody for posting that it's actually Reign Lounge and not Coco Loco.  

I was reading some of the other posts and was pretty shocked/amused to see all the strong feelings based off of misinformation.

A simple three second google search was all it took for me to realize it wasn't a Coco Loco planned.

It's crazy that I haven't even read a zip code in anybody's post, but a "sense of entitlement to zip code" keeps on getting mentioned.  

Anyway, I do prefer for the trends to move towards restaurants/shopping rather than bars.  I actually forsee Washington resembling Midtown, rather than 6th St.  I doubt the City of Houston would ever shut down Washington for revelers to traverse the streets 3 nights a week.  Washington has a looong way to go before that happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks somebody for posting that it&#8217;s actually Reign Lounge and not Coco Loco.  </p>
<p>I was reading some of the other posts and was pretty shocked/amused to see all the strong feelings based off of misinformation.</p>
<p>A simple three second google search was all it took for me to realize it wasn&#8217;t a Coco Loco planned.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s crazy that I haven&#8217;t even read a zip code in anybody&#8217;s post, but a &#8220;sense of entitlement to zip code&#8221; keeps on getting mentioned.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I do prefer for the trends to move towards restaurants/shopping rather than bars.  I actually forsee Washington resembling Midtown, rather than 6th St.  I doubt the City of Houston would ever shut down Washington for revelers to traverse the streets 3 nights a week.  Washington has a looong way to go before that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: LCC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LCC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judging from the song playing on the Reign Lounge website, it doesn't appear to be targeting the same CocoLoco audience.  Maybe it's the same owner venturing to a different type of bar/lounge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judging from the song playing on the Reign Lounge website, it doesn&#8217;t appear to be targeting the same CocoLoco audience.  Maybe it&#8217;s the same owner venturing to a different type of bar/lounge?</p>
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		<title>By: EMME</title>
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		<dc:creator>EMME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having lived in a neighborhood with some good bars and some bad bars (smaller scale than CocoLoco, but similar) I can tell you from experience, get on a first name basis with your council member(s).  They will be your first line of defense and greatest supporter.  Call the police each and every time you see anything illegal going on either on the premises of a nuisance bar and/or by people coming or going to said bar.  If the bar makes the news for criminal acts (robberies, burglaries, murder), keep records of that.  Have your councilmember send you monthly police call reports.  When their liquor license comes up for renewal, take all that ammo to the hearing and very possibly they will lose their license.  

I am not opposed to bars in the neighborhood, there are four in very close proximity to my home that are either good neighbors or at the very least, neutral.  There is one that has had two murders, multiple armed robberies in their parking lot, prostitution, noise complaints and at least three cars ending up in ditches on my street that were coming from there.  Our complaints got the TABC to investigate and lost them their license.  There is another bar trying to reopen that is equally a nuisance and we are actively trying to block that.  Don't give up, but remember, call the police for anything that is a nuiscance.  We still have noise limits between certain hours that even they have to abide by.  Good luck.  Washington Ave. will survive. You may have to be more vigilant for awhile, but it will clean up if you and your neighbors stay on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having lived in a neighborhood with some good bars and some bad bars (smaller scale than CocoLoco, but similar) I can tell you from experience, get on a first name basis with your council member(s).  They will be your first line of defense and greatest supporter.  Call the police each and every time you see anything illegal going on either on the premises of a nuisance bar and/or by people coming or going to said bar.  If the bar makes the news for criminal acts (robberies, burglaries, murder), keep records of that.  Have your councilmember send you monthly police call reports.  When their liquor license comes up for renewal, take all that ammo to the hearing and very possibly they will lose their license.  </p>
<p>I am not opposed to bars in the neighborhood, there are four in very close proximity to my home that are either good neighbors or at the very least, neutral.  There is one that has had two murders, multiple armed robberies in their parking lot, prostitution, noise complaints and at least three cars ending up in ditches on my street that were coming from there.  Our complaints got the TABC to investigate and lost them their license.  There is another bar trying to reopen that is equally a nuisance and we are actively trying to block that.  Don&#8217;t give up, but remember, call the police for anything that is a nuiscance.  We still have noise limits between certain hours that even they have to abide by.  Good luck.  Washington Ave. will survive. You may have to be more vigilant for awhile, but it will clean up if you and your neighbors stay on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Compusa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Compusa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IDK ... Buildergeek 

Stephen, Joseph 
3833 Hillcroft
Houston, TX 77057
United States
(281) 235-5995 

Owners of website show up as Coco Loco Location...different name same crowd?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IDK &#8230; Buildergeek </p>
<p>Stephen, Joseph<br />
3833 Hillcroft<br />
Houston, TX 77057<br />
United States<br />
(281) 235-5995 </p>
<p>Owners of website show up as Coco Loco Location&#8230;different name same crowd?</p>
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