You’re the one defending the uncaring monolith.

The idea was to help you understand that I’m quite familiar with WREIT, since you seem to think anti-Weingarten folks are naive about the realities of REITs.

“Just keep throwing names out; I’m sure it helps your argument.” WHAT?

I’m finished with this odd, nonsensical “debate”.

I’m not pro or against Weingarten. I don’t own stock or have any ties to them. If you felt they were a bad investment, then you did what you had to do and dropped it.

If the company is so poorly run, it will eventually fail as it should.

“taking an offensive stance to any builder or developer just forces them even more not to care about the public’s opinion.”

KJB- That statement shows me, sir, that you are naive in the extreme.

I’ve owned WREIT shares and read their prospectus. I dumped it for the same reasons I won’t own tobacco stock. Moral reasons.

Quote: “forces them even more not to care”
That’s just a priceless comment, kj; I won’t even touch it.

Why don’t you go off on another car tangent instead? Brother.

Well, there will always still be a**holes.

Been tried, doesn’t work. I had the lovely experience of dealing with one that wanted to build 4 townhomes on a 5800sf lot. I engaged him in a civilized dialogue up to and until the moment he did not get his way. Then he started making all kinds of threats and name calling. He was going to put a methadone clinic in. He advertised on craigslist to rent the existing structure to pedophiles. All in good fun, he says. Now it’s funny, but at the time, it was most frustrating.

They know that already. Maligning them will have no effect one way or the other. They have already decided that their potential profit overrides any argument that can be made.

And kjb, what makes you think devans wants to have a rational discussion at this moment? Sometimes, you just have to vent.

But if you ever hope to have a rational discussion with someone or a group that may have the ability to dramatically affect the street scape and/or block, you don’t start off by insulting or maligning them.

Taking a offensive stance to any builder or developer just forces them even more not to care about the public’s opinion. They know that whatever they do they’ll be a bunch of idiots who come out protesting and calling them names.

How would you like to go about your business where everything you do gets you hurling insults directed at you?

If the community that has objections would act in a mature way and show the ability to work to a compromise, then developers may actually listen. Until that happens, I completely understand why they would fly under the radar until the last moment when construction is close to happening.

Having been to and watched many Planning Commission Meetings, I’ve seen both ends of communities that object to developers and builders. The communities that are willing to compromise and work with the developer always seem to get the most results. The communities that go in ranting and raving end up not making a good coherent case aren’t taken seriously. The Planning Commission has several members that lean very much to support the local communities concerns, but you have to give them good solid reasoning to support your cause.

Yes, it is easy to cut down the Weingarten REIT, because it’s deserved. The odd question is why my opinion compels you to defend them? I dislike them because they willfully cause traffic problems, etc. and accept no responsibility. Their bankruptcy would make me VERY HAPPY. If you don’t like that, well, I could not be more indifferent.
…and I was “directing my comments to the public-at-large”, ding-dong! Kinda clueless there, pal.

Using your own proclamation: “There are many (other) examples you could use to kill my (meaning your) argument….” Finally, something upon which we can agree! Myriad examples, yes!

Please continue your impassioned defense of the Weingarten REIT. It’s great that someone will stand up for Goliath.