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	<title>Comments on: Smaller Signs in Houston&#8217;s&#160;Future</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: drone</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/smaller-signs-in-houstons-future/2009-07-09/#comment-35539</link>
		<dc:creator>drone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's humorous that kjblank keeps implying that somehow all of these business are going to go under because of signs having to be just a bit smaller.

It sound like a line right out of the GOP talking points about how to handle anything you don't like -- claim it will cause small businesses to go under!

Sorry dude, no one's buying it.  If your business can't succeed because your sign has to be a few feet smaller than someone else's, you have far more serious business problems.  Like the lack of any ability to run one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s humorous that kjblank keeps implying that somehow all of these business are going to go under because of signs having to be just a bit smaller.</p>
<p>It sound like a line right out of the GOP talking points about how to handle anything you don&#8217;t like &#8212; claim it will cause small businesses to go under!</p>
<p>Sorry dude, no one&#8217;s buying it.  If your business can&#8217;t succeed because your sign has to be a few feet smaller than someone else&#8217;s, you have far more serious business problems.  Like the lack of any ability to run one.</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/smaller-signs-in-houstons-future/2009-07-09/#comment-35430</link>
		<dc:creator>d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well right now there's really no other place to go to if you're out of a job.  it's dead all over the country.  we're going to see a collapse of our infrastructure even more before it gets better because, frankly real estate vaules are dropping all over the city-even west U.  so, the city is collecting less revenues from taxes.  this means less operating budget for internal improvemnts, etc.  i drive around the city-montrose, the heights, most places are seeing a lot of problems.  we need to see our streets redone and bury those damned ugly power lines that makes the city look like one in a 4th world country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well right now there&#8217;s really no other place to go to if you&#8217;re out of a job.  it&#8217;s dead all over the country.  we&#8217;re going to see a collapse of our infrastructure even more before it gets better because, frankly real estate vaules are dropping all over the city-even west U.  so, the city is collecting less revenues from taxes.  this means less operating budget for internal improvemnts, etc.  i drive around the city-montrose, the heights, most places are seeing a lot of problems.  we need to see our streets redone and bury those damned ugly power lines that makes the city look like one in a 4th world country.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/smaller-signs-in-houstons-future/2009-07-09/#comment-35387</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’ll take a gainfully employed citizenry over beautification any day.&lt;/i&gt;

Look, I read above that people hate it here and would leave if they had no job.  So if these commoners are fired, they'll take off, leaving the remaining citizenry no less gainfully employed than they were before.

But the city will be more beautiful.  Not just free of unsightly advertisements, but if any of these blue collar businesses do go under, we will no longer have to live with their bland commercial architecture or have to be subjected to the hideous sight of their workers' cars.  This is like manna from heaven.  What's your problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’ll take a gainfully employed citizenry over beautification any day.</i></p>
<p>Look, I read above that people hate it here and would leave if they had no job.  So if these commoners are fired, they&#8217;ll take off, leaving the remaining citizenry no less gainfully employed than they were before.</p>
<p>But the city will be more beautiful.  Not just free of unsightly advertisements, but if any of these blue collar businesses do go under, we will no longer have to live with their bland commercial architecture or have to be subjected to the hideous sight of their workers&#8217; cars.  This is like manna from heaven.  What&#8217;s your problem?</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/smaller-signs-in-houstons-future/2009-07-09/#comment-35383</link>
		<dc:creator>d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a more attractive city will encourage out-of-state businesses to come here.  a better quality of life for all- there's no way that can't be good for both business and the genera public.  i can't understand how someone can be deemed a snob because they just want a nicer place to live. then again, i guess some folks like wearing dirty underware too.  go figure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a more attractive city will encourage out-of-state businesses to come here.  a better quality of life for all- there&#8217;s no way that can&#8217;t be good for both business and the genera public.  i can&#8217;t understand how someone can be deemed a snob because they just want a nicer place to live. then again, i guess some folks like wearing dirty underware too.  go figure?</p>
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		<title>By: kjblank</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/smaller-signs-in-houstons-future/2009-07-09/#comment-35378</link>
		<dc:creator>kjblank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin = Elitist

You really are ok with people losing their jobs because you want a prettier city.  How much of disgusting human being can you be?  

How is it ok for some guy to lose his job because it happens not to be what a group of people think is visually good to look at.

I'll take a gainfully employed citizenry over beautification any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin = Elitist</p>
<p>You really are ok with people losing their jobs because you want a prettier city.  How much of disgusting human being can you be?  </p>
<p>How is it ok for some guy to lose his job because it happens not to be what a group of people think is visually good to look at.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take a gainfully employed citizenry over beautification any day.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm for the ordinance.  I would like a more beautiful city and I couldn't care less about any workaday loser at a small business who loses his job because of his employer's lost revenue.  As an added bonus, after they become unemployed, maybe those disgusting people will finally GTFO, as I'm told most people are here for jobs anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m for the ordinance.  I would like a more beautiful city and I couldn&#8217;t care less about any workaday loser at a small business who loses his job because of his employer&#8217;s lost revenue.  As an added bonus, after they become unemployed, maybe those disgusting people will finally GTFO, as I&#8217;m told most people are here for jobs anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: starvin marvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>starvin marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skrep-

I think the reason is because many people in this city are finally fed up with what the libertarian ideologues and other radicals have done to the aesthetics of this city and the quality of life here and are finally starting to push back. Perhaps "trailer park sheik" is par for the course in Louisiana or Oklahoma, but I certainly don't want to live around such tacky visual blight.

Again, this regulation doesn't go nearly far enough but it is a good start.  I am glad the majority here has finally begun to exert some pressure to make some much needed changes to Houston.  And yes, I will continue to term this as the will of the majority of people here in Houston despite the claims of a group of small, irrational ideologues. 

If the city council is voted out of office because of this move to clean up the city and make it a nicer place to live, then perhaps the "pro blight" people may have a point but until that happens, I think it is safe to say that they are (thankfully) in the minority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skrep-</p>
<p>I think the reason is because many people in this city are finally fed up with what the libertarian ideologues and other radicals have done to the aesthetics of this city and the quality of life here and are finally starting to push back. Perhaps &#8220;trailer park sheik&#8221; is par for the course in Louisiana or Oklahoma, but I certainly don&#8217;t want to live around such tacky visual blight.</p>
<p>Again, this regulation doesn&#8217;t go nearly far enough but it is a good start.  I am glad the majority here has finally begun to exert some pressure to make some much needed changes to Houston.  And yes, I will continue to term this as the will of the majority of people here in Houston despite the claims of a group of small, irrational ideologues. </p>
<p>If the city council is voted out of office because of this move to clean up the city and make it a nicer place to live, then perhaps the &#8220;pro blight&#8221; people may have a point but until that happens, I think it is safe to say that they are (thankfully) in the minority.</p>
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		<title>By: drone</title>
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		<dc:creator>drone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I don't see this ordinance having either a positive or a negative impact.  In fact, in and of its self, it seems to be one of the least impactful things to happen in this city in a while.

Ok, so signs have to be a little smaller.  No offense, but that giant sign two miles off the freeway?  I can't read it driving 60mph anyhow.  So, if a competitor comes by and has to put up a sign next door that's 5' smaller?  Zero impact.

And, let's be honest here - signs inform you of the location of a business these days, not so much that such a business even exists.  

What small business owner drives around town looking for a prospective competitor to one of their vendors?  Whosoever does that will soon be unemployed.  This isn't the dark ages (the 1970s? =) any more.  We have powerful tools for research.

And, no offense, that little machine shop is out in the boonies, and I don't know 'em from Adam.  The only way I'm going to give two hoots about them is if someone I trust tells me they had great service from them.  Or, I start searching the *gasp* internet for competitors because I feel I'm getting a bad deal.

(Yes, I've dealt with a few machine shops, and every one of them came to me through personal referrals.  I don't know anyone who uses machine shops that just drives around looking for new ones to call.)


I can tell a Kroger sign from and HEB sign even if it's only 2' long, and making that sign just a little smaller isn't going to do squat to clean up the landscape.  Heck, even taking down all of the billboards within the city limit will do very little to clean up the landscape.  Maybe if we followed the sign pole to the ground, we'd see where the real problems start.



Perhaps everyone just likes arguing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t see this ordinance having either a positive or a negative impact.  In fact, in and of its self, it seems to be one of the least impactful things to happen in this city in a while.</p>
<p>Ok, so signs have to be a little smaller.  No offense, but that giant sign two miles off the freeway?  I can&#8217;t read it driving 60mph anyhow.  So, if a competitor comes by and has to put up a sign next door that&#8217;s 5&#8242; smaller?  Zero impact.</p>
<p>And, let&#8217;s be honest here - signs inform you of the location of a business these days, not so much that such a business even exists.  </p>
<p>What small business owner drives around town looking for a prospective competitor to one of their vendors?  Whosoever does that will soon be unemployed.  This isn&#8217;t the dark ages (the 1970s? =) any more.  We have powerful tools for research.</p>
<p>And, no offense, that little machine shop is out in the boonies, and I don&#8217;t know &#8216;em from Adam.  The only way I&#8217;m going to give two hoots about them is if someone I trust tells me they had great service from them.  Or, I start searching the *gasp* internet for competitors because I feel I&#8217;m getting a bad deal.</p>
<p>(Yes, I&#8217;ve dealt with a few machine shops, and every one of them came to me through personal referrals.  I don&#8217;t know anyone who uses machine shops that just drives around looking for new ones to call.)</p>
<p>I can tell a Kroger sign from and HEB sign even if it&#8217;s only 2&#8242; long, and making that sign just a little smaller isn&#8217;t going to do squat to clean up the landscape.  Heck, even taking down all of the billboards within the city limit will do very little to clean up the landscape.  Maybe if we followed the sign pole to the ground, we&#8217;d see where the real problems start.</p>
<p>Perhaps everyone just likes arguing?</p>
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		<title>By: Skrep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skrep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is anyone willing to second my motion that we declare this topic even more polarizing than the Ashby Highrise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone willing to second my motion that we declare this topic even more polarizing than the Ashby Highrise?</p>
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		<title>By: kjb434</title>
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		<dc:creator>kjb434</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devans and JT - let the name calling and immaturity begin.

I'm glad I don't live in your world.  I'm much happier realizing that when I see a billboard I don't become depressed or sad.  I'm glad I have real concerns in my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devans and JT - let the name calling and immaturity begin.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad I don&#8217;t live in your world.  I&#8217;m much happier realizing that when I see a billboard I don&#8217;t become depressed or sad.  I&#8217;m glad I have real concerns in my life.</p>
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		<title>By: devans</title>
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		<dc:creator>devans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kjb- Yeah I'm well aware of the debate; no need to enlighten.  You're the one who left the tracks, and I don't blame you, since 
YOU LOSE.

It's your job to cogently defend your often ridiculous assertions, labelling, and insulting invective.  You moved on to irrelevant swamp-talk, instead.

Maybe your Cadillac's got a wheel in the ditch.  Your nutria's getting cold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kjb- Yeah I&#8217;m well aware of the debate; no need to enlighten.  You&#8217;re the one who left the tracks, and I don&#8217;t blame you, since<br />
YOU LOSE.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s your job to cogently defend your often ridiculous assertions, labelling, and insulting invective.  You moved on to irrelevant swamp-talk, instead.</p>
<p>Maybe your Cadillac&#8217;s got a wheel in the ditch.  Your nutria&#8217;s getting cold.</p>
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		<title>By: devans</title>
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		<dc:creator>devans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JT-

****BINGO****!!!!

Your last paragraph (#42) is perfect.
Well done.

------Posted by a non-leftist--------</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JT-</p>
<p>****BINGO****!!!!</p>
<p>Your last paragraph (#42) is perfect.<br />
Well done.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;Posted by a non-leftist&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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