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	<title>Comments on: Spec&#8217;s Developments on Washington: The Full Court&#160;Press</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/specs-developments-on-washington-the-full-court-press/2009-07-07/#comment-45211</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The property tax record goes to an LP on Gibson where the leasing agent, Urban Meridian Properties, are also based. They are still listing the property as fully leased on their website. My guess is that they are the owner, not Specs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The property tax record goes to an LP on Gibson where the leasing agent, Urban Meridian Properties, are also based. They are still listing the property as fully leased on their website. My guess is that they are the owner, not Specs.</p>
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		<title>By: kjb434</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/specs-developments-on-washington-the-full-court-press/2009-07-07/#comment-45111</link>
		<dc:creator>kjb434</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you right about hedging their bet that the Washington location will close.

Specs may even buy out/rent out the rest of the shopping center to have a full store in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you right about hedging their bet that the Washington location will close.</p>
<p>Specs may even buy out/rent out the rest of the shopping center to have a full store in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: tomT</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/specs-developments-on-washington-the-full-court-press/2009-07-07/#comment-45109</link>
		<dc:creator>tomT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Specs bought out Dailys AFTER they built the Spec on Washington. Do think the market in the area is big enough to support two Specs so close together? Or was Specs hedging their bets that the Washington store might have to close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Specs bought out Dailys AFTER they built the Spec on Washington. Do think the market in the area is big enough to support two Specs so close together? Or was Specs hedging their bets that the Washington store might have to close.</p>
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		<title>By: kjb434</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/specs-developments-on-washington-the-full-court-press/2009-07-07/#comment-45103</link>
		<dc:creator>kjb434</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tomT,

Although Google Maps says it's a Spec's, it's not unless they just changed ownership.

I think it's still called Daily's Liquor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tomT,</p>
<p>Although Google Maps says it&#8217;s a Spec&#8217;s, it&#8217;s not unless they just changed ownership.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s still called Daily&#8217;s Liquor.</p>
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		<title>By: tomT</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/specs-developments-on-washington-the-full-court-press/2009-07-07/#comment-45102</link>
		<dc:creator>tomT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a Spec store just down the road on Memorial @ Westcott. You can buy your wine and scotch there. I would like to see the store on Washington turned into Specs deli!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a Spec store just down the road on Memorial @ Westcott. You can buy your wine and scotch there. I would like to see the store on Washington turned into Specs deli!</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/specs-developments-on-washington-the-full-court-press/2009-07-07/#comment-45066</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dagnammit! Popped by on Friday to try and buy a couple of bottles of wine only to find this out first hand. The idea that different types of legal organisations can coexist in the same neigborhood is fundamental to the rebuilding of livable local neighborhoods. The City and County here are just incompetent, the real culprit is the State and by extension the voters for implementing this ludicrous rule in the first place. Personally I'm more concerned about the possible effect on my kids of having prosletyzing religious organisations in close proximity to their schools than of them having to see a liquor store on their way to school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dagnammit! Popped by on Friday to try and buy a couple of bottles of wine only to find this out first hand. The idea that different types of legal organisations can coexist in the same neigborhood is fundamental to the rebuilding of livable local neighborhoods. The City and County here are just incompetent, the real culprit is the State and by extension the voters for implementing this ludicrous rule in the first place. Personally I&#8217;m more concerned about the possible effect on my kids of having prosletyzing religious organisations in close proximity to their schools than of them having to see a liquor store on their way to school.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/specs-developments-on-washington-the-full-court-press/2009-07-07/#comment-42751</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should close down the school, or make the school move farther away. Problem solved!
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Spec's has closed. Of course there's still the lawsuit against the city and the county. Which they will probably win. Given the "variances" they give to developers, well, you get the picture. If not, no doubt it will be presented in court for all to see. The city did the same thing with 1717 Bissonnet. The only permit the developers lacked was the foundation permit. Then, suddenly, they had no permits at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should close down the school, or make the school move farther away. Problem solved!<br />
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<p>Spec&#8217;s has closed. Of course there&#8217;s still the lawsuit against the city and the county. Which they will probably win. Given the &#8220;variances&#8221; they give to developers, well, you get the picture. If not, no doubt it will be presented in court for all to see. The city did the same thing with 1717 Bissonnet. The only permit the developers lacked was the foundation permit. Then, suddenly, they had no permits at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should close down the school, or make the school move farther away. Problem solved!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should close down the school, or make the school move farther away. Problem solved!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/specs-developments-on-washington-the-full-court-press/2009-07-07/#comment-34805</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor kids. I remember those times, after a hard day of third grade, when we'd walk up the street to Joe's Bar and have a couple of cold ones. Now they will have to walk farther!

We get rules like this because nobody except the owners of the businesses cares much, and nobody's going to go to bat for people who sell booze, operate sexually explicit businesses, etc. What would make sense would be to come up with guidelines for what's near schools based on what businesses might actually cause real observable problems. It's really hard to imagine Specs fitting into that category. 

But more immediately, if the city screws up as they did this time, an individual business owner should not be stuck with the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor kids. I remember those times, after a hard day of third grade, when we&#8217;d walk up the street to Joe&#8217;s Bar and have a couple of cold ones. Now they will have to walk farther!</p>
<p>We get rules like this because nobody except the owners of the businesses cares much, and nobody&#8217;s going to go to bat for people who sell booze, operate sexually explicit businesses, etc. What would make sense would be to come up with guidelines for what&#8217;s near schools based on what businesses might actually cause real observable problems. It&#8217;s really hard to imagine Specs fitting into that category. </p>
<p>But more immediately, if the city screws up as they did this time, an individual business owner should not be stuck with the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: kjb434</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/specs-developments-on-washington-the-full-court-press/2009-07-07/#comment-34747</link>
		<dc:creator>kjb434</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason you don't see opposition to rules like this is because to people that truly opposed to them are working for a living versus being able to attend city council meetings.  The rest are oblivious to the rules until it finally affects them.

I'm no means a libertarian.  I'm just truly wondering why the city devotes time to regulations like this and the crazy sign ordinance (that won't do anything to affect signs except for new businesses).  Aren't much more pressing issues?  Actually there are many more pressing issues, but they aren't politically sexy and they may actually involve our council members actually making a real tough decision.

The council members that are speaking up on real issues or criticizing waste are essentially made fun of and looked over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason you don&#8217;t see opposition to rules like this is because to people that truly opposed to them are working for a living versus being able to attend city council meetings.  The rest are oblivious to the rules until it finally affects them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no means a libertarian.  I&#8217;m just truly wondering why the city devotes time to regulations like this and the crazy sign ordinance (that won&#8217;t do anything to affect signs except for new businesses).  Aren&#8217;t much more pressing issues?  Actually there are many more pressing issues, but they aren&#8217;t politically sexy and they may actually involve our council members actually making a real tough decision.</p>
<p>The council members that are speaking up on real issues or criticizing waste are essentially made fun of and looked over.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the chronicle story it sounds like someone at the City issued a variance, but it was of a type normally issued for restaurants. My reading of the story is that the City are arguing that Spec's attorneys should have noticed that it was the wrong variance when it was issued.

I think the ordinance doesn't come up much because most people buy their alcohol at a store that makes more than 50% of their sales from things other than booze which are not covered. I believe the argument for the original ordinance was not that kids would be tempted into buying a beer but that the mere prescence of these establishments would create an undesirable atmosphere near our schools. As has already been pointed out the ordinance really does nothing except highlight our ludicrously puritanical attitudes towards alcohol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the chronicle story it sounds like someone at the City issued a variance, but it was of a type normally issued for restaurants. My reading of the story is that the City are arguing that Spec&#8217;s attorneys should have noticed that it was the wrong variance when it was issued.</p>
<p>I think the ordinance doesn&#8217;t come up much because most people buy their alcohol at a store that makes more than 50% of their sales from things other than booze which are not covered. I believe the argument for the original ordinance was not that kids would be tempted into buying a beer but that the mere prescence of these establishments would create an undesirable atmosphere near our schools. As has already been pointed out the ordinance really does nothing except highlight our ludicrously puritanical attitudes towards alcohol.</p>
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		<title>By: RWB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RWB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kjb434 wrote: "Parents and people in the community should learn to control their lives versus expecting rules an regulations set by a few in a building the majority of us will never set foot in take us over."

A majority of us who cared to vote put those regulation writers in office. If we oppose their regulations, we can vote in hard-core libertarians next time around--you, yourself, could run for office, assuming you meet the fairly minimal citizenship and residency requirements. That's what representative democracy is all about.

Virtually any regulation is going to seem onerous or paternalistic to &lt;i&gt;someone&lt;/i&gt;. I'm sure their are people who chafe at slowing down in school zones or stopping for stop signs. This regulation about alcohol sales must be more than 1000 ft from a school must be one that most Houstonians either agree with or don't care about much, because I have never heard any particular opposition to it (except from you). This regulation hardly seems to have lessened the availability of alcohol in our fair city.

Anyway, like most commenters, I think it is unfair that if Spec's was granted a variance that it should be yanked away. Maybe there is more to this story than we're being told, but on the face of it, it looks like Specs is in the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kjb434 wrote: &#8220;Parents and people in the community should learn to control their lives versus expecting rules an regulations set by a few in a building the majority of us will never set foot in take us over.&#8221;</p>
<p>A majority of us who cared to vote put those regulation writers in office. If we oppose their regulations, we can vote in hard-core libertarians next time around&#8211;you, yourself, could run for office, assuming you meet the fairly minimal citizenship and residency requirements. That&#8217;s what representative democracy is all about.</p>
<p>Virtually any regulation is going to seem onerous or paternalistic to <i>someone</i>. I&#8217;m sure their are people who chafe at slowing down in school zones or stopping for stop signs. This regulation about alcohol sales must be more than 1000 ft from a school must be one that most Houstonians either agree with or don&#8217;t care about much, because I have never heard any particular opposition to it (except from you). This regulation hardly seems to have lessened the availability of alcohol in our fair city.</p>
<p>Anyway, like most commenters, I think it is unfair that if Spec&#8217;s was granted a variance that it should be yanked away. Maybe there is more to this story than we&#8217;re being told, but on the face of it, it looks like Specs is in the right.</p>
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