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	<title>Comments on: The Plan To Flip Houston&#8217;s LBJ House</title>
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		<title>By: GoogleMaster</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/the-plan-to-flip-houstons-lbj-house/2012-07-25/#comment-280959</link>
		<dc:creator>GoogleMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 22:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New pictures! I myself wouldn&#039;t have chosen a dark, spooky staircase as the cover photo, but then again I&#039;m not a REALTOR(R).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New pictures! I myself wouldn&#8217;t have chosen a dark, spooky staircase as the cover photo, but then again I&#8217;m not a REALTOR(R).</p>
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		<title>By: Gio</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/the-plan-to-flip-houstons-lbj-house/2012-07-25/#comment-276509</link>
		<dc:creator>Gio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 13:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the neighborhood and was interested in buying the house and do a proper, historically accurate restoration.  We made an offer that was rejected as too low.  However, I had walked through the house with my contractor (who actually restores houses rather than gut them) and we knew how much it would cost to fix it. By doing some basic research, I knew the new owner was not budgeting enough for the restoration.  Sure enough they have done a cheap job.  Although I like the fact that they will reinstall a fireplace where it belongs, they completely destroyed the formal dining room including tearing down an original built-in.  This was done in order to have an &quot;open &quot; kitchen with travertine floors..... In the process, they covered the original floor in the kitchen and removed an original ornate door that led from the dining room to the downstairs porch.  Upstairs, they ruined the original sleeping porch by eliminitaing all the original windows with smaller, commercial quality, historically inaccurate windows.  Walking through it during the open house, it was clear the house was not leveled properly -- the landing and the upstairs balcony, for instance, still slope.  The roof was not replaced, the art deco bathroom completely destroyed.  While the upstairs layout was not modified to give it a more logical flow.  The front of the house also needed restoration as the current cement porch is not to period.  Landscaping is non existent.  I wish them luck, but whoever buys the house will have to spend a great deal of money to fix what was done to it and restore it correctly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the neighborhood and was interested in buying the house and do a proper, historically accurate restoration.  We made an offer that was rejected as too low.  However, I had walked through the house with my contractor (who actually restores houses rather than gut them) and we knew how much it would cost to fix it. By doing some basic research, I knew the new owner was not budgeting enough for the restoration.  Sure enough they have done a cheap job.  Although I like the fact that they will reinstall a fireplace where it belongs, they completely destroyed the formal dining room including tearing down an original built-in.  This was done in order to have an &#8220;open &#8221; kitchen with travertine floors&#8230;.. In the process, they covered the original floor in the kitchen and removed an original ornate door that led from the dining room to the downstairs porch.  Upstairs, they ruined the original sleeping porch by eliminitaing all the original windows with smaller, commercial quality, historically inaccurate windows.  Walking through it during the open house, it was clear the house was not leveled properly &#8212; the landing and the upstairs balcony, for instance, still slope.  The roof was not replaced, the art deco bathroom completely destroyed.  While the upstairs layout was not modified to give it a more logical flow.  The front of the house also needed restoration as the current cement porch is not to period.  Landscaping is non existent.  I wish them luck, but whoever buys the house will have to spend a great deal of money to fix what was done to it and restore it correctly</p>
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		<title>By: GM</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/the-plan-to-flip-houstons-lbj-house/2012-07-25/#comment-276313</link>
		<dc:creator>GM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 23:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cody, did I see you at the open house today?

I&#039;m torn between &quot;Sweet Jesus!&quot; and &quot;Dear God!&quot;

Whoever mentioned Home Depot and Lowes hit the nail on the head. Several of the original windows were too far gone and have been replaced with cheap-looking Jeld-Wen.

She&#039;s still not done with the reno but went ahead with the open house, complete with handwritten sign that essentially said &quot;open house from 1 to 3, no, make that 4&quot; as there was a tentative &quot;3&quot; overwritten with a &quot;4&quot;.

We arrived at a slow period, so we got the royal personalized tour with her description of what she thought she might do to finish it out. I mean, she&#039;s renovating on the fly here. Stuff like, (in the parlor where the fireplace used to be) &quot;I was going to put travertine here, but a friend told me to put something dark, so what do you think about some of that black gran-ite? [The electric fireplace replacement that is much too small for the space] is so short, maybe I could get some of that tall metal stuff to set it up on. What do you think?&quot;

She told us several times that she&#039;s taking her time but could be finished in a week and a half (!) if she had a buyer. I&#039;m thinking it would take that long just to clean up all the sloppy paint smears from the windows and cover up the floor and trim stain that got on the walls. Forget about trying to finish the kitchen in that time -- she mentioned sort of vent that&#039;s still on order.

I totally appreciate the amount of work that has to go into bringing a 100-year-old house up to code (wiring, plumbing) and to modern standards of living (central AC), but why would you use cheap finishings, mishmash old and new styles in the same room, and not even have a plan or a vision while doing so?

At least Cody should be feeling some relief from the Prius Patrol. I think I know where they&#039;ve been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cody, did I see you at the open house today?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m torn between &#8220;Sweet Jesus!&#8221; and &#8220;Dear God!&#8221;</p>
<p>Whoever mentioned Home Depot and Lowes hit the nail on the head. Several of the original windows were too far gone and have been replaced with cheap-looking Jeld-Wen.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s still not done with the reno but went ahead with the open house, complete with handwritten sign that essentially said &#8220;open house from 1 to 3, no, make that 4&#8243; as there was a tentative &#8220;3&#8243; overwritten with a &#8220;4&#8243;.</p>
<p>We arrived at a slow period, so we got the royal personalized tour with her description of what she thought she might do to finish it out. I mean, she&#8217;s renovating on the fly here. Stuff like, (in the parlor where the fireplace used to be) &#8220;I was going to put travertine here, but a friend told me to put something dark, so what do you think about some of that black gran-ite? [The electric fireplace replacement that is much too small for the space] is so short, maybe I could get some of that tall metal stuff to set it up on. What do you think?&#8221;</p>
<p>She told us several times that she&#8217;s taking her time but could be finished in a week and a half (!) if she had a buyer. I&#8217;m thinking it would take that long just to clean up all the sloppy paint smears from the windows and cover up the floor and trim stain that got on the walls. Forget about trying to finish the kitchen in that time &#8212; she mentioned sort of vent that&#8217;s still on order.</p>
<p>I totally appreciate the amount of work that has to go into bringing a 100-year-old house up to code (wiring, plumbing) and to modern standards of living (central AC), but why would you use cheap finishings, mishmash old and new styles in the same room, and not even have a plan or a vision while doing so?</p>
<p>At least Cody should be feeling some relief from the Prius Patrol. I think I know where they&#8217;ve been.</p>
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		<title>By: Sihaya</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/the-plan-to-flip-houstons-lbj-house/2012-07-25/#comment-264994</link>
		<dc:creator>Sihaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see it&#039;s still standing, glad the wiring and plumbing have been upgraded so that it won&#039;t burn down or rot in place.  The rest is just personal taste, and fleeting.  In other words, I&#039;m delighted.  

I just visited San Antonio, where every other building dated back to the 1800s or early 1900s.  Alot of them had been reno&#039;d over and over again, at least on the inside.  Some had kept alot of period detail; some hadn&#039;t.  This made them alive, much in the same way that the English language lives by constantly changeing.  One of my tour guides had been born in a hospital building on the riverwalk.  The place had long ago been converted to an office building with tchochke shops in front, but the guide was proud that the building was still standing after being the birthplace of a century of San Antonians.  If we in Houston make our buildings stay vital, useful, desireable and, most of all, sound, they will live on and make Houston a place we&#039;ll be happy to show to our grandkids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see it&#8217;s still standing, glad the wiring and plumbing have been upgraded so that it won&#8217;t burn down or rot in place.  The rest is just personal taste, and fleeting.  In other words, I&#8217;m delighted.  </p>
<p>I just visited San Antonio, where every other building dated back to the 1800s or early 1900s.  Alot of them had been reno&#8217;d over and over again, at least on the inside.  Some had kept alot of period detail; some hadn&#8217;t.  This made them alive, much in the same way that the English language lives by constantly changeing.  One of my tour guides had been born in a hospital building on the riverwalk.  The place had long ago been converted to an office building with tchochke shops in front, but the guide was proud that the building was still standing after being the birthplace of a century of San Antonians.  If we in Houston make our buildings stay vital, useful, desireable and, most of all, sound, they will live on and make Houston a place we&#8217;ll be happy to show to our grandkids.</p>
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		<title>By: PYEWACKET2</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/the-plan-to-flip-houstons-lbj-house/2012-07-25/#comment-263216</link>
		<dc:creator>PYEWACKET2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, I think she&#039;ll be hard pressed to get $600,000.  It&#039;s not a grand house by any means and the only reason it&#039;s even halfway historic is because a future president lived in it briefly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, I think she&#8217;ll be hard pressed to get $600,000.  It&#8217;s not a grand house by any means and the only reason it&#8217;s even halfway historic is because a future president lived in it briefly.</p>
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		<title>By: miss_msry</title>
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		<dc:creator>miss_msry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want the house Clark Gable lived in while fishing for oil heiresses in Houston.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want the house Clark Gable lived in while fishing for oil heiresses in Houston.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/the-plan-to-flip-houstons-lbj-house/2012-07-25/#comment-263107</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s worthy of comment is not the quality or taste level of the work that was done, but that the flipper is insane if they think they can get $600k+ for this house.

Overall, I think the flipper mentality has done more harm than good when it comes to properties worth saving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s worthy of comment is not the quality or taste level of the work that was done, but that the flipper is insane if they think they can get $600k+ for this house.</p>
<p>Overall, I think the flipper mentality has done more harm than good when it comes to properties worth saving.</p>
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		<title>By: rsb320</title>
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		<dc:creator>rsb320</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care what it looks like inside, because I don&#039;t live there.  I just wish they&#039;d hurry up and finish so the construction trucks can be gone.  I&#039;m tired of them obstructing my view of oncoming traffic at the intersection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care what it looks like inside, because I don&#8217;t live there.  I just wish they&#8217;d hurry up and finish so the construction trucks can be gone.  I&#8217;m tired of them obstructing my view of oncoming traffic at the intersection.</p>
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		<title>By: no history remains</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/the-plan-to-flip-houstons-lbj-house/2012-07-25/#comment-263002</link>
		<dc:creator>no history remains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 16:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The owner (and the subsequent buyer) can still claim a City of Houston historic site tax exemption as the front and side facade of the house has not been altered.   She simply has to qualify for it.  To receive federal tax credits, the project would have to be an income producing property.

I agree with Cody - everyone talked about doing something with this house for years.  Finally someone steps up and actually does something.  Interior surfaces and cabinetry can always be changed.  The important thing is she did not alter the exterior or the major interior parts of the house.  I think she did well in preparing the house for a new owner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The owner (and the subsequent buyer) can still claim a City of Houston historic site tax exemption as the front and side facade of the house has not been altered.   She simply has to qualify for it.  To receive federal tax credits, the project would have to be an income producing property.</p>
<p>I agree with Cody &#8211; everyone talked about doing something with this house for years.  Finally someone steps up and actually does something.  Interior surfaces and cabinetry can always be changed.  The important thing is she did not alter the exterior or the major interior parts of the house.  I think she did well in preparing the house for a new owner.</p>
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		<title>By: Lost_In_Translation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lost_In_Translation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 14:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be so critical except tiling the living room floor is ridiculous.  On a house that old you&#039;ll probably end up with cracks all over the place (as there is no solid slab and there is probably less structural support than most modern houses).  Granted, everything she appeared to have done is undoable, but for 620k I think she&#039;ll come to regret her design choices once the house sits again on the market.  Maybe she&#039;ll get lucky, but poorly done is poorly done even she was the only one who tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be so critical except tiling the living room floor is ridiculous.  On a house that old you&#8217;ll probably end up with cracks all over the place (as there is no solid slab and there is probably less structural support than most modern houses).  Granted, everything she appeared to have done is undoable, but for 620k I think she&#8217;ll come to regret her design choices once the house sits again on the market.  Maybe she&#8217;ll get lucky, but poorly done is poorly done even she was the only one who tried.</p>
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		<title>By: GoogleMaster</title>
		<link>http://swamplot.com/the-plan-to-flip-houstons-lbj-house/2012-07-25/#comment-262954</link>
		<dc:creator>GoogleMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve driven by this house many, many times.  I&#039;ve been in the market to buy something on the Westmoreland/Audubon Place/Avondale side of Montrose for about five years now.  (Cody, I walked through your house before you bought it.)

When the LBJ house went up, there was a story in the Chron, and I looked at the pictures and drove by and realized there was a TON of work involved.  I knew it wasn&#039;t for me, but I hoped someone would buy it and lovingly restore it and upgrade it.

If you don&#039;t recall the story from the Chron, the previous owner and resident was a 90-something-year-old woman who was a cousin of LBJ, and the house had been in her family since she was a girl.  Their family was only the second owner.

So here&#039;s a 100-year-old house that has had very few upgrades -- it had electricity and indoor plumbing and somewhere along the line someone added window units.  And you could tell that it had been owned and lived in by a little old lady who had little or no maintenance done on it.  The foundation looked like it belonged on a circus funhouse.

The asking price started at something ridiculous for the condition, and eventually made its way down to lot value, and the sale went through for less than lot value.

I had high hopes for the redo when I researched the permitting and saw that the current flipper had tried to do things by the book and got permits for foundation work, electrical, A/C, plumbing, etc.... lots of permits.

But then I saw the new pictures for the redo, and drove/walked by several times.  Cheap materials, inappropriate interiors for the period, and omg what a sloppy exterior paint job!  I&#039;m saddened and disgusted.  It could have been a jewel, and still could be, but no one is going to pay $619K for a property that basically needs to be totally redone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve driven by this house many, many times.  I&#8217;ve been in the market to buy something on the Westmoreland/Audubon Place/Avondale side of Montrose for about five years now.  (Cody, I walked through your house before you bought it.)</p>
<p>When the LBJ house went up, there was a story in the Chron, and I looked at the pictures and drove by and realized there was a TON of work involved.  I knew it wasn&#8217;t for me, but I hoped someone would buy it and lovingly restore it and upgrade it.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t recall the story from the Chron, the previous owner and resident was a 90-something-year-old woman who was a cousin of LBJ, and the house had been in her family since she was a girl.  Their family was only the second owner.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s a 100-year-old house that has had very few upgrades &#8212; it had electricity and indoor plumbing and somewhere along the line someone added window units.  And you could tell that it had been owned and lived in by a little old lady who had little or no maintenance done on it.  The foundation looked like it belonged on a circus funhouse.</p>
<p>The asking price started at something ridiculous for the condition, and eventually made its way down to lot value, and the sale went through for less than lot value.</p>
<p>I had high hopes for the redo when I researched the permitting and saw that the current flipper had tried to do things by the book and got permits for foundation work, electrical, A/C, plumbing, etc&#8230;. lots of permits.</p>
<p>But then I saw the new pictures for the redo, and drove/walked by several times.  Cheap materials, inappropriate interiors for the period, and omg what a sloppy exterior paint job!  I&#8217;m saddened and disgusted.  It could have been a jewel, and still could be, but no one is going to pay $619K for a property that basically needs to be totally redone.</p>
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		<title>By: Raised Cottage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raised Cottage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They definitely made some odd design decisions but at least the house is still there.  With a good roof and a nice coat of paint (never mind the color), the structure is somewhat protected from the elements,  hopefully it will be there for a long time. Maybe someday someone with a different vision will restore it to something more period appropriate.  On the bright side it still has original windows, wood siding and trim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They definitely made some odd design decisions but at least the house is still there.  With a good roof and a nice coat of paint (never mind the color), the structure is somewhat protected from the elements,  hopefully it will be there for a long time. Maybe someday someone with a different vision will restore it to something more period appropriate.  On the bright side it still has original windows, wood siding and trim.</p>
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