Brian - All I did quickly was provide one link that discussed the topic. It happened to be from a conservative one. I guess that in your mind, the only possibly “factual information” could come from somewhere with a decidely liberal bent.

I’ll concede that I did not “bother” to thoroughly read the Australian ice study. But my point is that the climate is ever evolving and we as humans tend to be very, very short-sighted. We focus on near term trends as opposed to the long term (not 100 yrs)trends.

More importantly, this has been politicized for gain. While I agree that we as a species must change our habits to sustain our environment, one must also recognize that the masses have been influenced by fear-mongering to achieve goals which I could not credibly argue I am aware of. Political gain would have to be high on the list, though.

Climate change will always exist. A clever person could use it to his own gain indefinitely.

Jimbo,

You appear to be well-informed. Perhaps you could enlighten me on why there was a global cooling and a global warming scare in our own lifetimes?

“Ice loss has been greatest along coastal sectors of the Antarctic Peninsula and West Antarctica. However, ice thickening (gain) further inland and over most of East Antarctica may have partially offset this loss. All of the available estimates, however, show that the loss of mass in West Antarctica is greater than any added mass in East Antarctica.”

Exxon’s current policy on climate change is “With increased global energy demand, energy-related carbon dioxide emissions are expected to rise by an average of 1 percent per year through the year 2030. As was recently summarized in the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the risks to society and ecosystems from increasing greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions are significant. Meeting the enormous energy demand growth and managing the risk of GHG emissions are the twin challenges of our time.”

The most credible scientists and climatologists agree almost universally that global climate change (which is what it has always been called in the academic literature) is a major issue. Being a grad student and signing a petition does not make you a credible or respected scientist.

It’s snowing in ND in June
http://www.kxmb.com/News/Local/386720.asp

And Brian, please disregard the giant ball of fire in the sky as having anything to do with the global climate…b/c that would be completely preposterous…

And also disregard the coolest sunspot activity in a decade and the associated change in the global climate (not in favor of a global warming claim)…

And why are THEY referring to it now as climate change instead of global warming?

And, suddenly, now that the political agendas associated with global warming have been pushed to the side by bigger issues we’re seeing that most credible scientists and climatologists (who don’t work for those with agendas) are increasingly discrediting global warming. Hmmm…

..And Toyota Prius’ sales are down 45%
(not that that proves/disproves anything)

And what about that global cooling thing in the 70’s…I wonder what happened to that?

And you might want to revisit that whole ice-sheets-falling-off-Western-Antarctica-at-an-overwhelming-rate…THEY forgot to mention during that same time period that the rest of Antartica added more ice that any time in recorded history therefore offsetting the record losses on one part of the continent…

And please throw out your copy of Al Gore’s nonsense. Statistics are a funny thing when one has a significant political agenda…

Oh…and pull your head out of your ass and learn to read between the lines of BS that’s force fed to us…

Just another Sheeple…thanks for keeping the idiots in charge

http://www.weeklystandard.com/.....1lnajh.asp